21 March 2013

The Burqa Debate: To Ban or Not to Ban April 15, 2011


For a Ban: Christina Mahfouz

President Nicholas Sarkozy has declared: “We cannot accept that in our country some women will be imprisoned behind a fence cut off from all social life, deprived of identity. This is not a principle that the French republic has about women’s dignity.” He called the bill to ban the burqa a “moral choice”, and similar laws are now being considered across Europe.
Predictably, this has angered opponents, who view the ban as an attack on the freedom of expression and worship. With 0.003 per cent of the French population wearing the burqa/niqab, and in an era in which many extreme behaviours are often tolerated, why does a piece of cloth generate such highly-charged debate?
First, the ban strikes a practical balance between individual liberties and the wider security concerns of the community. It should be noted that the ban will not affect the hijab, the most common type of headscarf worn by Muslim women in the West that covers the hair only. It recognises individuals’ right to cover their heads and bodies in deference to the time-honoured religious principles of female modesty and respect. The issue of contention is in covering one’s face. Second, the French bill does not seek to ban the burqa in private homes, but in public spaces, including post offices, banks and public transportation.
It is also important to note that the ban is not specifically targeting Islamic women. The draft legislation stipulates that “no one can, in the public space, wear clothing intended to hide the face”. Under the legislation, all facial coverings, including helmets and balaclavas, would be prohibited. Indeed, it is reasonable that civilians expect not to encounter masked strangers in public spaces. Accountable and healthy participation in society fundamentally requires identification: the need to be able to recognise our fellow citizens and be recognisable in turn. Lifting the veil upon request does not resolve this issue.
The burqa creates a one-way window through which some members of society are recognisable, while others remain invisible. This is a rather confronting prospect with which to be faced, especially when you are the one who cannot see the person staring back at you. It is not a manifestation of so-called ‘Islamophobia’. It is a basic principle of social cohesion that has developed since time immemorial and is especially important in advanced, mobile-age economies such as ours that place a very high premium on successful communication and interpersonal relations. According to Jean-Francois Cope of The New York Times, the burqa prevents women from engaging in socially meaningful lives, thus undermining employability and the ability to climb the socio-economic ladder.
No doubt, the burqa has a range of meanings for the women who wear it, and speaking from a predominantly Western perspective, it is difficult to appreciate these fully. However, the burqa’s origins lie not in the Qur’an, but rather in an extremely conservative interpretation of Islam known as Salafism. This interpretation is commonly associated with countries such as Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, where the burqa is mandated by Sharia law, which also forbids women from driving, leaving the home without supervision or engaging in various socio-economic interactions, including minor medical procedures, without the consent of a male ‘guardian’.
It is difficult – perhaps even naive – to separate “choice” from the fundamentalist and inherently gender-biased religio-cultural context in which it is made, especially since the burqa is usually worn by immigrants from these Gulf regions. This is a particularly jarring concept, given that it sits contrary to the ideals of universal human rights, gender equality and individuality.
In the alternative, if their “choice” turns out to be the result of fully autonomous, informed decision-making, the legislature may have no basis for imposing its whim on a woman’s fashion sense. But what if the women inside genuinely need help? Or a platform for liberation? Instead, political correctness is tying the tongues of those who would normally be at the fore to campaign for women’s rights. Unfortunately, evidence points to coercion as being at least one factor that influences women in wearing burqas.
A piece of cloth is just that; but various moral and security dilemmas arise when that cloth is used to entrench social invisibility. Ultimately, the burqa is a visible statement of separateness that entrenches differences and creates distance between its wearer and society. To borrow the words of the South Australian Senator Cory Bernardi, “it’s symbolic barrier is far greater than the measure of cloth it is created from”.
Against a Ban: Grace Brown
The burqa debate is a microcosm of the broader issue of Islamaphobia. At the radical end of the Islamaphobic scale, Pastor Jones attempted to hold a “Burn a Koran Day” in Florida last September 11; at the conservative end, Switzerland prohibited minarets. This year, France’s Senate voted 246 to 1 in favour of banning the burqa and the niqab, which leaves eyes uncovered. Yet targeting the symbols of Islam will not improve national security; it will unhinge it, by alienating Muslims domestically and reaffirming the belief of extremists worldwide that Islam and the West are inherently incompatible. This fuels terrorists’ fire; already, al-Qaida has threatened “dreadful revenge” if France’s ban is enforced.
The security rationales for a burqa ban may conceal anti-Islamic sentiments towards the growing visibility of Islam in secular backyards. If security is the objective, why not ban gun licenses? Instead, the French multi-party panel that recommended the ban also suggested that France refuse residence cards and citizenship to anyone with “visible signs” of “radical religious practice”. Although there are Islamic states that would not allow non-Muslims to dress freely, extremes exist on both sides and two wrongs cannot make a right: merely a lowest common denominator.
The media have stirred the phobia, exaggerating the extent of ‘Islamisation’ as a sovereignty threat. One morning show in Australia sensationalised a story about “why Victorians are forced to cover up”. In fact, as Jackie Frank, Marie Claire’s Editor-in-Chief, correctly noted, it was a request, not a requirement, and limited to a Muslim sports event in wintry August. Conversely, the original journalistic inaccuracy may have generalised a controversial expectation across an entire group.
Some legislators argue that a ban will liberate Muslim women from ‘subjugation; but the extent to which Sharia law or community dress coercion exists in secular societies is limited. Many migrant women argue that they wear it against their families’ wishes, in the exercise of their constitutional rights to freedom of self-expression and religion to emulate the wives of the prophet Muhammad. One burqa-wearer asserted on the ABC that her burqa is as much an exercise of individuality as tattoos and piercings. Saliently, unlike some exercises of liberty such as smoking, that decision does not adversely affect others.
While Premier Kristina Keneally affirmed that “a burqa ban has no place in multicultural New South Wales”, in Western Australia, Muslim women giving evidence must now remove their veil. While the legislative intent is to facilitate fair process by mitigating jury prejudices, it also compounds the emotional burden of giving evidence, acknowledged in rigorous restrictions on cross-examination nationally. Compelling witnesses to remove a meaningful piece of clothing could increase their discomfort, confounding the reliability of their testimony or, worse, deterring them from testifying at all.
Muslim women are not only at risk of being alienated in the administration of justice, but in society. France’s proposed bill broadly prohibits burqas and niqabs in “public spaces”, which encompasses streets, markets, government buildings, public transportation and even private businesses. They will be ‘free’ to choose between one of three equally austere options: bear punishment, abandon their faith, or become prisoners in their homes. “I won’t go out … I’ll send people to shop for me … I’ll stay home, very simply,” said Oum Al Khyr, who wears a niqab.
This contradicts everything that a free and democratic society represents and undermines the ban’s very subject: the women experiencing it. Ironically, wearing a burqa is, for many, an exercise of liberty; the ban is a constraint. Freedom is forfeited not in choosing to wear a burqa, but in being unable make that choice at all. A Muslim mother of four in Avignon, Kenza Drider, considers France’s ban “a law that is unlawful … against liberty of conscience”.
Overall, if the legislative intent of the ban is to improve security, or the quality of life of Muslim women, it reflects paternalism at its most naive. In failing its objectives, it could be unconstitutional. Consequentially, judicial challenges are expected in France’s Council of State and the European Court of Human Rights. It may also be unenforceable; women wearing it will be fined 148 euros, while men pressuring them will be fined 29,757 euros and risk a jail sentence. But how will police determine whether a woman was wearing it under duress, or assuming responsibility to avoid her husband incurring tougher penalties?
Burqa and niqab bans are unconstructive, unconstitutional, unenforceable, and their justification opaque. Rather than arbitrarily administering discriminatory laws, we must give unwavering attention to the aims of such laws and consider whether they are appropriate and adapted to achieving those aims. In doing so, we must assess not only black and white headline-worthy extremes, but every shade of grey in between. And we must acknowledge our own ignorance before legislating in murky waters; the truth may be as difficult to perceive as the affected woman herself.

44 comments:

  1. As I see it, wearing burqa is a not religion simbol but it is a tradition, and a law, in those countries from which these people come. Moreover the republican pricinples which apeals the French president also say that everyone is free to have a religion and a culture, but it's also true that when they move to an other country they should integrate themselves in the society they're going to live.
    It's also illogical that they want to obligate all people which is just travelling not to wear burqas.

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  3. Personally, I agree with those people who say that the aim of this ban is to help muslim women defend their human rights. But it isn't so easy. With this ban, they see we are rejecting their culture, and it's understandable they get angry for that. That's why I think it isn't a good idea. If we imagine we were in their place, having to leave our country and culture, we would also get annoyed if the government of that country banned our traditions. In consequence, I believe we should allow them to wear whatever they want, and if we really want to help them integrate, I'm sure we'll be able to find other ways.

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  4. Has the French government asked Islamic women what does burqas mean for them? I'm sure they haven’t done it, and then I asked myself: how they can give their opinion, or what’s more, try to ban a tradition that hasn’t anything to do with them.
    It’s true that some people feel more comfortable when they can see the other’s face. But it doesn’t mean that they are right, because probably muslins women feel better with her burqas and we haven’t right to ban what defines themselves.

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  5. Wearing burqas is part of muslim women's culture and, in my opinion, it's totally acceptable. However, it's true that it can be considered as a symbol of the inferiority of women in the muslim society.
    As I see it, wearing burqas shouldn't be banned, because it will only change the way muslim women look, not their situation. This new law makes these women leave their tradition, identity and freedom, which is not fair at all. Putting an end to the sexist situation of the Islamic world requires bigger efforts.

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  6. As my classmates have said, you can not ban Burqas for the simple reason that women who are in this situation are at a disadvantage compared to men because if you really want to change this, it seems to me that there would be methods more efficient, or at least more focused on that goal.
    So if you ask me my opinion, no, they shouldn't ban Burqas. Or at least give the real reasons that they have and the goal that they want accomplish.

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  7. The French governament want to ban the burqas in order to give to the womens the same rights as the men, because for them, burqas is a sing of inferiority, jail and lack of freedom. But, did they ask to the woman? Are they doing this for the muslim woman or for themselves, because they don't want to see a woman with burqas?
    I think that the govermanemnt want to put this ban from themselves, because they don't want to see a woman with a burqa and, if they put the law, they think that they are doing a good fact and they are proud of themselves.
    Clothing is a maner of express our ideas, our culture, our tradition, and anyone must take off this right. As there are people who can show they musics preferences with a determinate clotes, I think that the muslim womans can show they religions with the burqa.

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  8. It is possible that in their culture wearing burka is the most normal thing, a traditions, like in the occidental culture is not wearing it. Wearing the burka is not the problem. The problem starts when their husbands are above of their women and force them to wear it. In my opinion women who want wear the burka should have the same rights than one who not to wear it. On the other hand some people think that at the same manner that when we are in most of their countries women in special places should cover their head, here women who wear burka should control their clothing. To sum up, in my opinion the burka is a problem when it attacks on the freedom of women.

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  9. The burqa originally served to protect the sand, as it is believed that its originated in the desert. Now, it has lost this function, and represents a misogynist vision of Islamic society. The women can choose if they want wear burqa or not, but they shouldn’t be forced by their husbands. The French government wants to ban it for its own sake, not to give the same rights as men or for his benefit. To end the situation of these countries sexist they must do bigger efforts.

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  10. The way I see it, all of us should be given the right of freedom. That's why I think burqas shouldn't be banned. Those masked people are just true to their beliefs, and it can't disturb our society, because if it did, it would be a sign of cowardice and insecurity that shouldn't have anything to do with a liberal country. Even though burqas symbolize so many important things, they're nothing but a piece of cloth, so I think banning them is quite ridiculous, and even more the fact that a country worries about it.

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  11. After reading some articles and watching some videos, I think burqa ban isn't a bad idea. Firstly, the burqa isn't a religious symbol, it doesn't appear in the Koran. The way I see it, it only shows in which level women are.
    Everybody has the rights of freedom and equality. In addition, it's part of their culture and their own ideas but they should attempt to understand that our culture is different and even if burqa doesn't affect European people at all, maybe it isn't well looked upon. Apart from that, some dangerous people such as terrorists use it in order not to be discovered. When you see someone with a burqa garment and you can't see their face, you feel insecure.
    Finally, to my great regret burqa should be banned. I see this ban as a way in which women can be more free and start defending their rights.

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  12. In my opinion, I think that burqas aren't a good cloth and I never would put me one. But this is my opinion and I think those people who run it is because they have a different way of thinking and acting and we lived in a world that everybody is free to wear what they want and all we should respect. At the end, I would say that one thing is to respect their way of life and another one is to leave them to change our way of life.

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  13. I don’t like burqas, but I respect the freedom of choice. The problem for me resides in the top of the burqua, in the part that covers the face. The antiburqua movement is just a radical split of the original project, which just try to bann whatever that cover the face so that identification in case of bad behavior can be easily for police. Islamic women are not oppressed and forced to wear burquas as many people think (or this is what the islamic make us think) , but there are islamic factions that are male chauvinist and consider women inferior, radical sexist movements. I think the people who were burquas must were an idintifaction number stamped in the burqua, is not a supersolution because it has it’s problems too, but it’s a temporary solution for the problem.

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  14. Nowadays there are many opinions about the fact that musilm women wearing burka or not in some countries when they are in public spaces. But in my opinion after reading some articles and watching some videos about this issue, I think that wearing burkas is a right that musilm women’s are for their culture, and it is totally respectable. A lot of people and entities not respect this culture because they thing that women wearing clothe to hide the face is a lack of respect for other people.

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  15. It's true that burqa is a symbol that represents the subjugation of women over men. Personbally, I think that this ban won't change anything, because even though burqa gets ban, muslim women will still being at the same circumnstances, they wouldn't have more rights; It's true that everyone is free to have they religion and culture, but we can't accept the religions or cultures that discriminate against one gender or no equal rights for all.

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  16. Personally I think that burqa isn't attractive for us but for their culture is a symbol that they respect. Nowadays there are many people that don't respect the burqa but should know that this is a personal decision of each. Even so, there are situations that actually ban its use, for instance in France.
    In my opinion, it's true that should be uncomfortable wear burqa because it covers all face leaving only see, breathe and eat. Furthermore in summer this garment gives much heat and in the beach they should wear a special suit (burquini).

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  17. Personally I don’t like burqas, but I think that if woman want wear it, they should be free to choice. I know that a lot of womans wear it because they want, but maybe others don't want and they have to wear it due to their husband wants it. I respect islamic religion, but there are parts of this religion that i don't like, how for example, when it says that woman are inferior than man, in my view that's not fair. I believe that this law won't take out the inferiority to islamic woman, and if the government wants change this, should appliy others kind of laws.

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  18. Based on this new, I think that burqas are the clothes from muslim people, and I understand that this is their tradition, and for that reason we should respect that and if muslim women wear a burqa is because in their religion believe that. But, from my point of view, I think that if muslim people come to our country they don't need to wear burqas, but if they want they should be able to wear this, because it's their way of life and they doesn't have to change their lifestyle.

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  19. Generally I don't like Islamic religion because it's sexist and despises women. However, I respect it like any other. I understad that in a country where we aren't used to see burqas, this can be uncomfortable. Nevertheless, I disagree with the ban, islamic women should be free to do whatever they want. Although it is certainly nicer to see their face.

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  20. In my view, burqa should not be a serious problem. European people don't like to see it and Sarkozy forbid to use it. Whats the problem? People say Islamic women are like inferior than the men when they use it. Perhaps it's true, but if she want to use it, why not? On the one hand all immigrant should be integrate in his new location and respect the laws and the other hand people should help them to integrate. Personally, I think if she want to use it and it isn't dangerous for someone, she can wear it. Maybe we can help them to integrate with another ways. It's her culture, and it isn't dangerous for our society.

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  21. It's very shocking reading this article knowing we are in the 21st century. I mean, it's people we are talking about! I can't understand how there is still people who believe that it should be banned. If we consider that foolish proposal then they might want to tell nuns that they are about to ban their penguin dresses, only because it's unusual. We are dealing with TRADITION, which is absolutely different in each country and I think they should all be equally respected.
    If we say that they should "integrate" in society as I read a few comments above, then I don't see why if you go to the amazon, as an integration sign you should wear a loincloth.
    Maybe, there are many women that wear burkas agains their will, however we can't interfere, that is their problem. Or do they intrude in our catholic problems? (which are many but hiden).

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  22. From my point of view, I am totally agree with Sarkozy decision about to ban the burqa in public spaces, because I think that it's necessary for sequirity reassons and also, it will help women to feel freedom if they really didn't want to wear a burqa. In contrast, I know there are some women that prefer to wear the burqa, bacause it's a religious aspect, but if these women live in other countries where the burqa is not common, I think they can practice their religion, but also they must follow the ruls of the society where they are living in this moment.

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  23. In the last few years, a debate has became popular: Should burqas be banned? After reading some articles and watching some videos, in my opinion, the fact that burqas become banned won't be so negative. It's true that this is their way of living, their culture and we have to respected, but this culture is aswell against of the Human Rights. First of all, as I see it, burqas are like women's jails so that they can't show their body and giving their opinion is forbidden for them. In my view, we must be tolerant with each culture, but we can't accept this kind of maltreatment which is suffered by women. This topic is a bit conflicting, because we are defending the idea of freedom but, at the same time, we are trying to change their way of living. It will take long to find a solution to this.

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  24. After watching some videos and reading some articles, my opinion hasn’t changed. I think that the law which bans burkas or niqabs have to be considered by the people, because if the government permit wearing burkas, consequently, they have to accept that if an African come to France, he can wear loincloth in public places, because is his tradition like the burkas for Islamic women. I think that banning burkas, the government implant a new law, in which it said how we have to dressed, and this law mustn’t be brake. Personally, I think that if the government defend freedom, they shouldn’t ban wearing burkas or other different clothes.

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  25. This topic is a little bit difficult to tal about it because there are a lot of views and not only one are the right. On the one hand I think that the french goverment try to defend the muslim women rights but, as Aintana say, nobody has asked to this women what burqas represent for them. On the other hand, if for this women, burqas represent their religion or their culture, I think that this ban musn't be accepted. In my view we never will find a correct solution of this problem, we always find a social grup thinking diferent of the others.

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  26. Nowadays, the islamic religion is not welcome by many people because of a group dedicated to terrorism. My personal view is that we don't have to generalize and treat everyone in the same conditions. If everyone has the same rights everyone can dress everything that they want, so we can't ban the tradition of muslim women. I agree to protect women who don't want to wear burqa because if they are forced to wear it, goes against human rights.

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  27. In my opinion the people who want to wear burqas have to respect the laws that there are in France, they probably live a much better lifestyle than in their own country and they chose to move to France, nobody made them leave their native country. These laws have been established to give women the same rights as men by giving them an identity, if they don't like it they should go back to their native countries and were there's no free health service or free education.

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  28. I don't know why we have to discuss this problem, some people respect the culture and the religion of the burqas,and others simply dont.Personally I don't like burqas,perhabs I don't have a good viewpoint of them . Many people think it shouldn't be baned because of their tradition, but thats why they have their own country don't they?

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  29. In my opinion banning Muslim women wearing the burka is completely favorable to the progress of our society.

    The problem is that people of this culture do not realize that discrimination against women in this culture. Why the women have to cover their faces and men don’t?
    The prohibition of the burkas is not more than a strategy to open their minds and make them to realize that it stopped being a custom of their culture the moment they violated women’s rights.

    Therefore I support the idea of banning burkas.

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  30. In one hand it's true that burqa can be considered like a symbol of the inferiority of women int the society, but we have to think that it's a part of their tradition and we can't change an ancient tradition. A lot of muslim women are proud of wearing the burqa and we have to respect that.
    In the other hand, the action carried out by a lot of governments is acceptable, because they believe in equality between men and women and it's necessary to finish with the discrimination against women, who in muslim countries are forced to wear the burqa, and it goes against the human rights.

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  31. I don't think burqas should be banned, it's a religious and cultural symbol for them. If you're going to argue that it cuts them off socially, that's their problem and they should fix it. What about all the people that don't socialize? Will they be forced to go outside? In the U.S., the First Amendment of the constitution, among other things, protects the freedom of religion. This includes the freedom to practice religion in public or private and a ban like this would never pass. I think it's a bit rediculous that this was even proposed, people shouldn't be discriminated like this because of a radical group painting a bad picture for a whole culture.

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  33. In my view banning burqa, a traditional symbol is similar to ban the christian cross which represents an ancient culture. So many people should think about how they will feel if they loose an important symbol for them. Furthermore we live in a freedom world so if they wanna wear special clothes as burqa for me it's not a problem.

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  35. The cultures are very different, and all of the cultures needn't be the same, but there are situations that are extreme for the human condition.

    Many women have been deceived believing that dressing well is right and morally right, but, have they otherwise left them provide? no, and for that, now many woman after descovering such as other countries want to be equal, like them, with more freedom.

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  36. I think that the burqa isn't only clothes, even though it's not a tradiccion. Burqa have made a great controversy around the rights of the womens. Womens on the videos I have seen say that burqa is a symbol of liberty and modesty. They said that they wear the burqa because the want, but if they dodn't want to wear it, the will have to wear it.

    The problem becames bigger when muslims begin to wear burqa in western countries, were the most important thing is the security. A person with a burqa in a public build is a danger, becase anyone who wears a burqa can pass himself off as someone.

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  37. In my opinion, banning the burqas is a very bad decision since it is a traditional symbol of an ancient culture and you have to respect all the diversity at all the parts of the world because each person is different and each culture is different.

    So, in conclusion, burqas shouldnt be banned of any country or area because we have to base our world in the respect and the freedom and we have to let the people live their lives and respect their own cultures because thats the base of the liberty.

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  38. In my view, the remedy is worse than the illness. Any law can forbid a tradition and religional costum. The France government musn't do anything about this. If a muslim women think that she have to wear the burqa, she's in her right. Nevertheless, if another wants to take off it, she can do it without any law in favour or against.

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  39. If they want to wear burqas they're allowed in their country, but it's possible that in another countries it's forbidden like in France, and the must respect the country were their living at. If they're doing what religion says, they must do it in her country, they're here by one reason, they should respect the laws. In my opinion it doesn't mind if a muslim were burqa or not, but if we respect them when we go to their country, they should respect us in ours.

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  40. I'm freaking out so much with the comments arguing against. The only strong argument of Christina Mahfouz is the protection of the nation. But would not it make more sense not to give weapons permits? And who has said the burqa is against human rights? Was a group of centrist-minded entrepreneurs of the right?

    To understand the nonsense they say we have to start studying the history of this country: France, a country where only exist the French, a centralist country of the conservative right, which does not respect another culture than the French.

    In my opinion I think that the clothes which are a symbol of religion should be accepted in any country. In my case I'm an atheist, do I have to hate all the people who manifest their religion? No, because everyone believes in what he wants. That's what they say human rights (Article 19): " everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice".

    Where is the problem with the burqas?

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  42. Wearing burqa shouldn't be a subject of discussion. Muslims have their own cultural and religious identity, and that's something that we all have to respect, as we all want to be respected. The problem starts when respect is only in one way. In my view, when we travel abroad to visit other countries, we have to follow these country rules and respect their cultural and religious traditions. Their home, their rules. Easy. The same happens when muslim people come to other countries in which the muslim religion is not the most extended one. Don't pretend to make me accept your rules when I'm at your country and then, when you are at mine, you continue doing whatever you want. That's not how respect works. Freedom of religion? OK, no problem, I agree with this, but to everyone and everywhere, not only in my country but also in yours. I am just defending the need of respect and tolerance between religions and cultures in contact.

    All in all, we don't have so much to say about veil and burka's issue because it's something that doesn't really concern us as a non-muslim society. Is it a sign of opression? Do muslim woman wear them because of their religious convictions? We never know, everyone is different and that's difficult to say exactly which the real situation is. What is certainly true is that we have to respect it even if it looks strange or unusual.

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  43. First, I am against women wearing burqas.First of all it is unsafe to society, because the person without a burqa can not see the person that wear a burqa, and this causes fear. Also this slice of fabric is not permitted to have a full social life. As could be not getting a job, or not being able become independent economically ...
    Secondly, however,I remain opposed, I'm taking away your freedom of speech and religion. Just as can be (as stated in the text) an individual exercise, such as a tatto or pircing ...
    But in conclusion, I am against the burqas!!

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  44. I think that people are on freedom to do all they want, only if is not a delicte. Islamic' women have the right to wear the buqa, if that want. But, it's true that I think the islamic religion is sexist and opressive with the women. I'm not against or supporting it. People know what they do.

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